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	<title>Comments on: Dell SAS 5/i poor performance</title>
	<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html</link>
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		<title>By: patricko</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-390</link>
		<author>patricko</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-390</guid>
					<description>After spending weeks isolating, I came to the conclusion that
I/O is bad on 1950. But I need confirmation! 

Googling awhile and you are my confirmation!!!

Thanks buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After spending weeks isolating, I came to the conclusion that<br />
I/O is bad on 1950. But I need confirmation! </p>
<p>Googling awhile and you are my confirmation!!!</p>
<p>Thanks buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: patricko</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-391</link>
		<author>patricko</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-391</guid>
					<description>Call DELL support.

The Chap told me to try these setting:

And my I/O contention is gone!


"We need manually set 'READ AHEAD' &#38; 'WRITE BACK'
on your RAID CARD setting."

My guess: 

Last time, older DELL server RAID CARD have 
hardware cache BUILT into the CARD but NEWER
server x290 series USES RAM instead of cache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call DELL support.</p>
<p>The Chap told me to try these setting:</p>
<p>And my I/O contention is gone!</p>
<p>&#8220;We need manually set &#8216;READ AHEAD&#8217; &amp; &#8216;WRITE BACK&#8217;<br />
on your RAID CARD setting.&#8221;</p>
<p>My guess: </p>
<p>Last time, older DELL server RAID CARD have<br />
hardware cache BUILT into the CARD but NEWER<br />
server x290 series USES RAM instead of cache.</p>
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		<title>By: Klug</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-765</link>
		<author>Klug</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 15:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-765</guid>
					<description>Same issue here 8-/

There's a brand new firmware (april 17) to download from Dell's website, I did not try it yet.

Did you set the "read ahead" and "write back" into BIOS (at boot time) or in your OS driver ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same issue here 8-/</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a brand new firmware (april 17) to download from Dell&#8217;s website, I did not try it yet.</p>
<p>Did you set the &#8220;read ahead&#8221; and &#8220;write back&#8221; into BIOS (at boot time) or in your OS driver ?</p>
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		<title>By: Zulus</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-807</link>
		<author>Zulus</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-807</guid>
					<description>Klug, probably we are talking about different controllers.
SAS5/i even has not any BIOS
You are about PERC5/i and with PERC5/i we haven't any problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klug, probably we are talking about different controllers.<br />
SAS5/i even has not any BIOS<br />
You are about PERC5/i and with PERC5/i we haven&#8217;t any problems.</p>
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		<title>By: dimitri</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1594</link>
		<author>dimitri</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1594</guid>
					<description>I have the *exact* same issue except I have a PE860.

Basically I've spent 2 days reading up about this issue and I have dell looking into it. I know I have to *enable* write-back cache but there is no place to enable it.  Dell Open Manage does not give me the option, neither does the PERC5/iR Bios...

I've checked the LSI site - nothing 

How do you enable write-back caching with this setup? I don't care about power failure, I'm on UPS

Firmware Version 00.10.49.00.06.12.02.00 
Driver Version 1.24.04.00 
Windows 2003 DataCenter X64

dimitri_c at sympatico.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the *exact* same issue except I have a PE860.</p>
<p>Basically I&#8217;ve spent 2 days reading up about this issue and I have dell looking into it. I know I have to *enable* write-back cache but there is no place to enable it.  Dell Open Manage does not give me the option, neither does the PERC5/iR Bios&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve checked the LSI site - nothing </p>
<p>How do you enable write-back caching with this setup? I don&#8217;t care about power failure, I&#8217;m on UPS</p>
<p>Firmware Version 00.10.49.00.06.12.02.00<br />
Driver Version 1.24.04.00<br />
Windows 2003 DataCenter X64</p>
<p>dimitri_c at sympatico.ca</p>
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		<title>By: dimitri</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1595</link>
		<author>dimitri</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1595</guid>
					<description>Here's some UNIX guys talking about the same issue:

http://www.nabble.com/Dell-SAS5-Performance-Issue-tf3474648.html#a9697855

Scott wrote me:

"
I added a feature to FreeBSD 6 and 7 last week that enables the SATA write cache on all drives directly connected to an MPT-SAS controller.
If you want to try this out, you'll need to update your kernel sources and add the following line to /boot/loader.conf:

hw.mpt.enable_sata_wc=1

Most people are reporting a significant increase in write performance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some UNIX guys talking about the same issue:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nabble.com/Dell-SAS5-Performance-Issue-tf3474648.html#a9697855" rel="nofollow">http://www.nabble.com/Dell-SAS5-Performance-Issue-tf3474648.html#a9697855</a></p>
<p>Scott wrote me:</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
I added a feature to FreeBSD 6 and 7 last week that enables the SATA write cache on all drives directly connected to an MPT-SAS controller.<br />
If you want to try this out, you&#8217;ll need to update your kernel sources and add the following line to /boot/loader.conf:</p>
<p>hw.mpt.enable_sata_wc=1</p>
<p>Most people are reporting a significant increase in write performance.<br />
&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Zulus</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1596</link>
		<author>Zulus</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1596</guid>
					<description>Dimitri, please note, PERC5/i != SAS 5i ;-)
I'm happy with my servers on PERC5/i, probably because almost servers has a lot of reads and no writes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitri, please note, PERC5/i != SAS 5i ;-)<br />
I&#8217;m happy with my servers on PERC5/i, probably because almost servers has a lot of reads and no writes.</p>
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		<title>By: Zulus</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1597</link>
		<author>Zulus</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1597</guid>
					<description>BTW, thanks for link</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, thanks for link</p>
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		<title>By: dimitri</title>
		<link>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1598</link>
		<author>dimitri</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/03/dell-sas-5i-poor-performance.html#comment-1598</guid>
					<description>fyi I fixed the issue today by enabling Write Caching on the VIRTUAL DISK via an older version of Dell's Raid Manager found here:

http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=pes_hardrive&#38;thread.id=26011

My writes are much faster now but make sure you run your system on UPS if you go with this setup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fyi I fixed the issue today by enabling Write Caching on the VIRTUAL DISK via an older version of Dell&#8217;s Raid Manager found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=pes_hardrive&amp;thread.id=26011" rel="nofollow">http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=pes_hardrive&amp;thread.id=26011</a></p>
<p>My writes are much faster now but make sure you run your system on UPS if you go with this setup</p>
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